Agenda and minutes

Licensing Sub-Committee (3) - Thursday 1st March, 2018 10.00 am

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Contact: Jonathan Deacon  Email:  jdeacon@westminster.gov.uk Tel: 020 7641 2783

Items
No. Item

1.

Membership

To report any changes to the membership.

Minutes:

There were no changes of Membership.

2.

Declarations of Interest

To receive declarations by Members and Officers of any personal or prejudicial interests in matters on this agenda.

Minutes:

Councillors Caplan and Scarborough declared in respect of Belgrave Square Garden in Belgrave Square that they know some of the attendees at the hearing in their work as councillors.  They had not discussed the application beforehand with any of the attendees.  Councillor Caplan also declared that he had spoken with two of the Knightsbridge and Belgravia Ward Councillors, Councillor Robathan and Councillor Devenish, the evening prior to the hearing and advised them that they were not able to speak at the hearing without having submitted representations.  They had had no influence on the decision making process.

1.

Belgrave Square Garden, Open Space, Belgrave Square, SW1 pdf icon PDF 4 MB

App

No

Ward /

Cumulative Impact Area

Site Name and Address

Application

Licensing Reference Number

1.

Knightsbridge and Belgravia Ward / not in cumulative impact area

Belgrave Square Garden, Open Space, Belgrave Square, SW1

New Premises Licence

17/14880/LIPN

 

 

Minutes:

LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE No. 3

Thursday 1 March 2018

 

Membership:              Councillor Melvyn Caplan (Chairman), Councillor Karen Scarborough and Councillor Aziz Toki

 

Legal Adviser:             Barry Panto

Policy Adviser:            Chris Wroe

Committee Officer:     Jonathan Deacon

Presenting Officer:     Daisy Gadd

 

Relevant Representations:         In support of application – 24 representations.

 

Objecting to the application – Metropolitan Police, Environmental Health, 34 residential representations.

 

Present:  Mr Craig Baylis (Solicitor, representing Grosvenor Estate), Ms Amanda Bond-Elliott (Chair, Belgrave Square Garden Events Committee), Mr Nigel Hughes (Estate Surveyor, Grosvenor Estate), Mr Robert Dudley (We Are The Fair Ltd – Designated Premises Supervisor), PC Reaz Guerra (Metropolitan Police), Mr Dave Nevitt (Environmental Health), Mr Richard Brown (Solicitor, Citizens Advice Bureau Licensing Advice Project, representing Ms Mary Reignier-Leigh, Mr George Waite and Mr Jeremy Lucas (all of Belgravia Society and all in attendance)), Mr Charles Oliver, Ms Sara Oliver, Ms Marina Kaloghirou, Ms Monica Lucas, Mr Vincent Oratore, Mr JTS Bower, Ms Hazel O’Leary and Ms Karen Morgan Thomas (local residents).

 

Declaration: Councillors Caplan and Scarborough declared that they know some of the attendees at the hearing in their work as councillors.  They had not discussed the application beforehand with any of the attendees.  Councillor Caplan also declared that he had spoken with two of the Knightsbridge and Belgravia Ward Councillors, Councillor Robathan and Councillor Devenish, the evening prior to the hearing and advised them that they were not able to speak at the hearing without having submitted representations.  They had had no influence on the decision making process. 

 

Belgrave Square Garden, Open Space, Belgrave Square, SW1

17/14880/LIPN

 

1.

Late Night Refreshment (Indoors and Outdoors)

 

 

Monday to Thursday:                            23:00 to 23:30

Friday to Saturday:                               23:00 to 00:00

 

 

 

Amendments to application advised at hearing:

 

 

None.

 

 

 

Decision (including reasons if different from those set out in report):

 

 

Prior to the hearing, the Applicant advised all parties that there were amendments to the application.  Firstly, under “conditions consistent with the operating schedule” in the Licensing Sub-Committee report (condition 11), the number of events for which licensable activity would be necessary was reduced from 15 to 12.  Secondly, in terms of non-standard timings, it had originally been proposed that there should be a maximum of 5 occasions per calendar year when licensable activity may continue until 01:30. The applicant now proposed to reduce this to a maximum of 3 occasions per calendar year when licensable activity may continue until 01:00.

 

The Sub-Committee was addressed at the hearing by Mr Baylis.  He disputed that there had been any element of ‘subterfuge’ or a lack of consultation in relation to what was sought from the application as he believed may have been suggested by Belgravia Society’s written representation.  He clarified that he had been instructed by Grosvenor Estate.  The Applicant was Belgrave Square Garden Events Committee and the application was being fully supported by Grosvenor Estate who own the Belgrave Square Garden Open Space.

 

The Sub-Committee heard from Mr Hughes.  Mr Hughes explained that residents of Belgrave Square are automatically entitled to  ...  view the full minutes text for item 1.

2.

Wingstop Restaurants, Basement To Second Floor, 138-140 Shaftesbury Avenue, W1 pdf icon PDF 804 KB

App

No

Ward /

Cumulative Impact Area

Site Name and Address

Application

Licensing Reference Number

2.

St James’s Ward / West End Cumulative Impact Area

Wingstop Restaurants, Basement To Second Floor, 138-140 Shaftesbury Avenue, W1

New Premises Licence

18/00145/LIPN

 

 

Minutes:

LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE No. 3

Thursday 1 March 2018

 

Membership:              Councillor Melvyn Caplan (Chairman), Councillor Karen Scarborough and Councillor Aziz Toki

 

Legal Adviser:             Barry Panto

Policy Adviser:            Chris Wroe

Committee Officer:     Jonathan Deacon

Presenting Officer:     Yolanda Wade

 

Relevant Representations:         Licensing Authority, Amenity Society and 2 local residents.

 

Present:  Ms Lana Tricker (Solicitor, representing the Applicant), Mr Herman Sahota (Director, Applicant Company), Mr Christian Solanot (Operational Director, Applicant Company), Mr David Sycamore and Ms Roxana Haq (Licensing Authority) and Mr David Kaner (Covent Garden Community Association).

 

Wingstop Restaurants, Basement To Second Floor, 138-140 Shaftesbury Avenue, W1

18/00145/LIPN

 

1.

Late Night Refreshment (Indoors and Outdoors)

 

 

Monday to Sunday:                               23:00 to 00:00

 

 

 

Amendments to application advised at hearing:

 

 

Ms Tricker, representing the Applicant, advised that the Applicant had withdrawn late night refreshment (outdoors) / takeaway as it was no longer being sought after 23:00.

 

 

 

Decision (including reasons if different from those set out in report):

 

 

The Sub-Committee heard from Ms Tricker, representing the Applicant.  She advised Members that there were two amendments to the application.  Firstly, the terminal hour for off-sales on Sunday was reduced from 23:00 to 22:30 and secondly, late night refreshment (outdoors) / takeaway was no longer being sought after 23:00. 

 

Ms Tricker explained that the Applicant was unable to accept the Council’s model restaurant condition, MC66, in full.   She described the operation of the premises with customers placing their orders at the counter.  They would sit down awaiting the food to be prepared/cooked at the premises.  Once it was ready, they would collect it from the counter and consume any food or drink whilst seated.  There would be no waiter or waitress service at the premises although there was several staff there.  There was no bar at the premises and alcohol would not be displayed there.  It would be served from behind a counter.  Ms Tricker estimated that alcohol sales would be approximately 2% to 3% of turnover.

 

Ms Tricker referred to the proposed conditions, emphasising that the premises would not be drink led.  On sales would be ancillary to the meal.  Off sales would be in sealed containers, ancillary to a takeaway meal and not consumed on the premises or in the immediate vicinity of the premises.  Ms Tricker commented that the off sales condition was an important element for the Police and Mr Kaner for Covent Garden Community Association.  The Police had requested that off sales were not consumed in the immediate vicinity of the premises prior to the withdrawal of their representation.  The Police had also requested that there was no drinking outside the premises which had been agreed by the Applicant.  She added that the conditions also required a Challenge 25 policy to be established.  No super-strength beers would be sold at the venue and there would be no self-service of alcohol.  There would be three types of beer sold which would be ancillary to a meal.

 

Ms Tricker stated that the main seating area was on the first floor.  There were no licensable activities in  ...  view the full minutes text for item 2.

3.

The Plaza, 116-128 Oxford Street, W1 pdf icon PDF 8 MB

App

No

Ward /

Cumulative Impact Area

Site Name and Address

Application

Licensing Reference Number

3.

West End Ward / West End Cumulative Impact Area

The Plaza, 116-128 Oxford Street, W1

New Premises Licence

17/14610/LIPN

 

 

Minutes:

LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE No. 3

Thursday 1 March 2018

 

Membership:              Councillor Melvyn Caplan (Chairman), Councillor Karen Scarborough and Councillor Aziz Toki

 

Legal Adviser:             Barry Panto

Policy Adviser:            Chris Wroe

Committee Officer:     Jonathan Deacon

Presenting Officer:     Yolanda Wade

 

Relevant Representations:         Licensing Authority.

 

 

Present:  Mr Gary Grant (Counsel, representing the Applicant), Mr Marcos Fernandez Pardo (Chief Executive Officer, Applicant Company), Mr Andrew Wong (Solicitor, on behalf of the Applicant) and Mr David Sycamore and Ms Roxana Haq (Licensing Authority).

 

New Paella restaurant to be situated in Eastcastle Street (within the larger unit known as The Plaza, 116-128 Oxford Street, W1).

17/14610/LIPN

 

1.

Playing of Recorded Music (Indoors)

 

 

Monday to Thursday:                            11:00 to 23:30

Friday and Saturday:                            11:00 to 00:00

Sunday:                                                 12:00 to 22:30

 

 

 

Amendments to application advised at hearing:

 

 

None.

 

 

 

Decision (including reasons if different from those set out in report):

 

 

The Sub-Committee heard from Mr Grant, representing the Applicant.  He explained that InPaella is the venture of Quique Dacosta, the internationally renowned chef whose flagship restaurant in Alicante, Spain has held 3 Michelin Stars since 2012.  The Applicant company is in partnership with Iberica Restaurants who are working with Snr Dacosta and they current operate eight restaurants in the UK, including two in Westminster. 

 

Mr Grant referred to the Council’s Statement of Licensing Policy setting out at paragraph 2.5.12 that the ‘wide variety of restaurants is a feature of Westminster and contributes to its status as a world class city’ and commented that the project would provide world class dining facilities.

 

The Applicant was seeking Core Hours for licensable activities with an additional half an hour in relation to the closing time.  Mr Grant stated that the reason for the request for an extra half hour was in order that customers would be able to have a more relaxed dining experience.  There would be gradual dispersal from the restaurant. 

 

Mr Grant advised that the proposed capacity is 190 (80 on the ground floor and 110 on the first floor).  The planning permission granted in March 2017 had envisaged a capacity of 250.  He expressed the view that the application would, due to the nature of the premises, enhance the area rather than detract from it and would not add to cumulative impact in the West End Cumulative Impact Area.  He also drew Members’ attention to InPaella replacing a number of fast food restaurants that had previously operated from The Plaza’s food court.  These outlets had occupied 1440m² in comparison to the current premises’ 865m².  The remainder of the space in The Plaza, which was the subject of a major re-development in Eastcastle Street, would be a retail unit.  The address of the premises would be Eastcastle Street.

 

Mr Grant said that the hours for the planning permission granted by the Council were in keeping with the opening hours to the public being applied for in the current application.  He made reference to the case of Forster v SoS for Communities and Local Government [2016] EWCA Civ 609  in order to make the  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.

4.

Trattoria Da Aldo, Basement And Ground Floor, 51 Greek Street, W1 pdf icon PDF 1 MB

App

No

Ward /

Cumulative Impact Area

Site Name and Address

Application

Licensing Reference Number

4.

West End Ward / West End Cumulative Impact Area

Trattoria Da Aldo, Basement And Ground Floor, 51 Greek Street, W1

Variation of a Premises Licence

18/00322/LIPV

 

 

Minutes:

LICENSING SUB-COMMITTEE No. 3

Thursday 1 March 2018

 

Membership:              Councillor Melvyn Caplan (Chairman), Councillor Karen Scarborough and Councillor Aziz Toki

 

Legal Adviser:             Barry Panto

Policy Adviser:            Chris Wroe

Committee Officer:     Jonathan Deacon

Presenting Officer:     Yolanda Wade

 

Relevant Representations:         Licensing Authority.

 

 

Present:  Mr Jack Spiegler (Solicitor, representing the Applicant) and Mr David Sycamore and Ms Roxana Haq (Licensing Authority).

 

Trattoria Da Aldo, Basement And Ground Floor, 51 Greek Street, W1

18/00322/LIPV

 

1.

Layout alteration

 

 

The applicant is seeking to vary the premises layout in the Basement and Ground Floor of the premises.  The proposed layout changes include:

 

·       An increased and improved sanitary accommodation; reconfiguration of back of house areas and introduction of new dining area in the basement area.

·       Replacement of dining areas with display kitchen and back of house areas; installation of new dining counter on the Ground Floor and inclusion of existing private forecourt within licence demise.

 

 

 

Amendments to application advised at hearing:

 

 

None.

 

 

 

Decision (including reasons if different from those set out in report):

 

 

This was an application to vary the premises licence for a restaurant situated in the West End Cumulative Impact Area.  The first aspect the Applicant sought to vary was changes to the premises layout, which now included an external area (sales to which would now constitute “on sales” within the terms of the licence).  The second was to amend a condition on the existing licence, increasing the maximum capacity from 40 including staff to 54 excluding staff.  The third was to add a works condition to the licence.

 

The Licensing Authority submitted a representation objecting to the increase in capacity in the West End Cumulative Impact Area.  The conditions on the existing licence required alcohol to be ancillary to a table meal and supplied by waiter or waitress service.  During the hearing, in response to a question from the Sub-Committee, Mr Spiegler, representing the Applicant, confirmed that his client was content for the Council’s model restaurant condition, MC66 to replace these conditions on the premises licence in the event the Sub-Committee was minded to grant the application.  Mr Spiegler supplied the information that the maximum number of staff employed at Trattoria Da Aldo would be 12. 

 

The Sub-Committee heard from Mr Sycamore.  He welcomed the fact that the Applicant had offered the Council’s model restaurant condition.  He also welcomed clarification of the capacity in relation to the number of staff who would be employed at the premises.  Mr Sycamore did make the point that the existing hours of operation (which had not changed) were in excess of Core Hours and that more people would be dispersing into the Cumulative Impact Area in the event of an increased capacity.  However, it was for the Sub-Committee to consider whether the addition of MC66 addressed concerns.

 

The Sub-Committee granted the application for the layout alteration, the increased capacity and the works condition.  Members considered that the additional conditions, in particular the model restaurant condition, ensured that the application would not add to cumulative impact  ...  view the full minutes text for item 4.